This article is religiously preferenced, the judge is also, and so much religious crap here other than JWs. What is Christianity and Christ and cross being taught in a school for, so that a child could not disagree. What if the child is Jewish or Moslem or Buddhist and you force this cross Jesus on him? My teachers lied and claimed the Catholic church had told Columbus the earth was flat. They leave out that Greeks of 200bc calculated the size of spherical earth. Yet it was Catholic Spain not Catholic Italy that gave him the ships (for Jesus Christ) which teachers leave out. This picture of a judge is also religion, it is religions who said a man must have gray hair so he puts on long white curls. BUT in america the men who put these wigs on are the ones who bend the 7 year old over. My adopted roommate (of 1998) thinks he was BORN gay, he says he remembers at 5 wanting the dick of his adopted father in his mouth, yet at 4 he was fostered and doesnt remember the man. People are stupid if they dont see at 4 he was put into foster care by law that did this to him. So dont tell me judges with wigs are safe too, when they say a school can force a cross on you. Further, i too in 12th grade had a subteacher for a day who was Catholic and insisted he be called Father written on the board. The next day, the teacher graded the tests which claimed Peter founded the Christian gathering in church when this is strictly Catholic dogma. YOU force us JWs to practice religion in schools by claiming it is not your religions when it is. How come when they color Santa and Easter bunny they lie and claim it is not religious, yet as a JW they put me in a back room like I was bad, yet said oh we feel sorry for you, we know you hurt to watch this around you of other kids having fun, here we will put you in a closet. THESE are adult teachers doing this in SECULAR schools. Using propaganda tactics you say things like Easter is not religion or bunnies are not, yet even PAGAN is a religion. (ABOUT ME?) I judge you all, and I say come hate me because you deserve to ignore the real asteroid Armageddon warning when it comes and its your hate that makes you choose which warning you listen to. I beg my enemies to choose obedience to martial law (and die). Not saying that wicked elders in kingdom halls are not equally judgmental on a child and wrong as this judge is (because yes I was abused verbally by elders), but sorting the world out first, then those elders can be sorted out after the disaster (emotional distress on all people is the fire of God everyone will go thru).
Malachi Elijah
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Boy, 7, taken away from his parents. Judge rules he has been damaged by his Jehovah's Witness mother's religious beliefs
by snugglebunny ini guess that's what a cult upbringing does to a child:.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3092457/boy-7-taken-away-parents-judge-rules-damaged-jehovah-s-witness-mother-s-religious-beliefs.html.
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Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?
by cultswatter ina recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.
if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.
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Jesus and Judas split because Jesus was the theocracy and Judas was the collections finance and legal service. One killed the other. All watchtowers of the city Jerusalem were built outside the city wall connected to the temple inside the city wall. Yet to use the WatchTower you had to go thru the temple. To kill the first Roman down below from up above on the watch tower, the Jews brought their weapons thru the temple hidden in their garments These guns will be brought into churches when martial law is proclaimed from now until the asteroid impact. This is why they will also accuse the watchtower of having weapons if the holy ones or anointed gather to trial like Jesus did. Judas the legal turning on Jesus the theocracy. Don't let the WT fool you, Judas exists at the table of Jesus until Armageddon itself. It could be one of 7 claiming there are no pedophiles, or it could be someone who makes confession in online video that he hates himself for looking at tight spandex packages on men, asking women if they see these tight bulges too like he does. Proper or not proper our Jesus said that both brother and enemy would dish out the measure back to you that you have been dishing out to them.
ELIJAH waking up a bride like John did
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2034 - A Future History of Jehovah's Witnesses
by slimboyfat ini don't know what i am talking about... read this post at your peril.
back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among jehovah's witnesses.
those who have read raymond franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about dan sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'.
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You could take 60 years away from Terah, making Adam as 3966bc and the Flood 2310bc, that 120 years as 2430bc, and end 6000 years in 2034AD. However, all calendars of the world divide from the pivotal point of 2370bc. So that wouldn't work, and 4344 years to year 6000 when continued in a 360-day calendar would expect the ancient world awaiting for 1914AD, which locks in 1975 for whole years. Further, I too in 1983 thought the 120 years from Russell's first article in 1876 to 1996 but this is because all 50th jubilees from 537bc to 455bc ended 7 weeks to rebuild the city as 1914 to 1996. There was the fact that the rest of the Bible went the 12 years of Nehemiah, but in 1983 I wasn't willing to look toward 2008 beyond 1996 because what could be greater than a wall between a city watch tower and its temple inside the city. Then I was also spurred on by being violently attack by Satan or the Devil via all elders and all circuit overseers. Liars who said I took 1996 from Ussher and so believed a 588bc destruction and 6000 years as 1996. NOT so. IN fact I cried in fear, and Jehovah told me that the Studies in the Scriptures by Russell was in the basement of the Kingdom Hall and there I would find Russell unveiling Ussher and how Ussher is wrong. That way I would no my enemies, the appointed elders who think they are chosen disciples by the faithful slave. My experience was elders pounding their chest with a fist and saying Jehovah has chosen us not you. So anyways. MY work has not ceased no matter how much I wish would, because not a day goes by that the nagging doesn't hound me unveiling new secrets. For example that it was Haran who brought his father's Marduk calendar from Ur to Babel to present to Nimrod, and only then could this calendar of Terah's (2148bc) be from Nahor (fixed by Mayans as 2177bc) and then be shifted first at Babel, and then at Harran Syria to match the 20-day shifted version of the Mayans in Mari Syria who had fled Ur in the Monkey year. See I know my stuff, Jehovah drowns me so much that I even dig up papers I write 20 years ago and forgot I knew. So the answer? It is in Persian Haman who is given a cast of lots to know the day and hour. The cast of lots is telescopes and computers seeking asteroids. The day and hour is announced because who survives it is all based on whether Esther goes into trial like Jesus so that it kills her and completes the bride of Jesus. The reason this must occur is because it was once Jesus who dies or his 12 apostles die, get killed. And so now it is either Esther who dies, or the survivors gathered for Armageddon who die. How so? Because the martial law is the wrong way. Escape must be made before astral impact. Like the Thailand tsunami, the risk to collapsed economy must be made like an unplanned fire drill. I know because at work I once stacked a crate that fell on a fire alarm. No one knew what the alarm was, and no one went anywhere. I realized it was the alarm behind the crate, where I had properly stacked it in the marked floor lines. Fire drills are always faked. They do not work. The time is announced when this drill will happen. Fools. Thus escape must be made before astral impact whether it hits or not, and whether governments let you go or not. The risk is not trusting it to be that hour. BUT this is why that bride must die. Satan confuses where the number currently sets at. He doesn't believe they would stay FAITHFUL. So they bring soldiers against them to prove they'll submit to government. BUT the reality is the same as for Jesus who trusted he would awake in 3 days. That reality means, if God truly knows how to pick them, the real 144,000 not the fakes, then that number will prove complete when he does for them what he did for Jesus, namely give all 144,000 the power to pop in and out, and off and on the earth to show baptized followers that they have not died, the number has been completed, and that date Obama says 40 days after their death slaughter execution is true. Escape now during the 40 days and tell everyone, hey come with us and live. The trash can be sorted out afterward like Moses did after the Red Sea. I wrote all this, not just to wake the bride like John did, not just to run ahead like John did, but also so a great multitude will now rush to their salvation and let those who mock who hate who defy who get arrogant then be the ones who die.
Come! Come join the millions who flee because the marriage is complete with all in heaven who were chosen.
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The Lawsuit Landslide: Irwin Zalkin representing ELEVEN child abuse victims against Watchtower
by cedars inmany of you will be interested to know that irwin zalkin now has 11 lawsuits against watchtower at various stages.. these can be summarized as follows.... j.l.
shocked by the lack of action, the victims mother immediately left the congregation with her son.
by this stage campos was a known predator with complaints having been made to the elders at linda vista spanish, playa pacifica spanish and the watchtower dating back to 1982.elizabeth mcfarland ohio a former ministerial servant named scott silvasy sexually molested elizabeth when she was a child through her early teens.
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I hate to say it but both sides is a really bad story. Like any Catholic or any jury or any court, it is not as if the WT has Jehovah and the world is Satan. Every case itself everywhere is hypocritical. Innocent people get accused of sex abuse they didn't do and then get punished, and people guilty of sex abused go to court and claim a case is not beyond doubt. The games on TV listening to courts are the same even in kingdom hall elders. In a group of peer-aged kids 15 to 21, I was showing them how to jitter-bug. A ministerial servant used to flip my mom over his shoulder (while dating my older 16 year old sister). So I did this and the girl almost hit her head because she grabbed tight upside down. I lowered her gently, but next day Sunday at the hall got accused by an elder of grabbing her boob. They accuse who they wish, and excuse who they wish. Like killing Jesus they gather witnesses when they have none, and when you have two they'll say only one qualifies. Its a game of Satan in the Hall no different than Satan in the jury and the court. Justice barely tops any reality, any where. I know a brother who got reproved fro breaking an engagement to a pioneer who insisted the WT tells people to describe what kind of sex you expect in your marriage. BIG ISSUE then, if you're not yet engaged how do you discuss it without accused & removed for sex talk with the opposite sex. And if you're engaged, how do you end an engagement (forbidden to) upon finding out the pioneer is kinky in this case, and wanted to lay it on the line this kind of sex she wanted. I foresaw this in her, because the person who told me this pioneer got dumped for this demands from him, reproved him, but kept her as a pioneer, she was telling elephant cum jokes door-to-door with us. Yet bring this to the elders, and they will tell the person who heard it direct that they must be silent or become DF. Quite opposite from when I was told by elders that I know nothing, when two pioneers women who were told not to speak ANYTHING to me cleaned house for Peterson who kept her 12 inch jeweled cross in the basement drawer. Simply hypocrisy is everywhere and people are liars. Stuff goes on everywhere everyone, and the liars win. Not saying Conti is the liar, but her speaking truth, what has it gained. Be proud the truth gets exposed, it's enough. -
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Sunday July 31 WatchTower article on disfellowshipping
by Malachi Elijah ini am confused about the tactic of the sunday wt article.
it seems to be talking about staying loyal to jehovah when chased by enemies and then it turns it around to saying stay loyal to jehovah by accepting elder decisions on who to disfellowship.
the odd thing about it, is that david was chased in two different ways, by his son who wanted to usurp his throne.
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I am confused about the tactic of the Sunday WT article. It seems to be talking about staying loyal to Jehovah when chased by enemies and then it turns it around to saying stay loyal to Jehovah by accepting elder decisions on who to disfellowship. The odd thing about it, is that David was chased in two different ways, by his son who wanted to usurp his throne. His son Absalom sought to remove the anointed right of David. This was wrong, David himself was anointed to be king and he never sought to remove anointed Saul from that throne. Anyone could say that his mere presence while Saul slept to let Saul know he could have been killed might be regarded as disrespect for Jehovah's anointed. So many JWs would say of others that it was an intent to kill in one's heart just to do this. No they don't accuse David, but they would accuse you if you did this. After all that is what is of issue, the fact that JWs will let Satan's evil in their heart to accuse their own brothers of having feelings like this. They cannot recognize when the words off their tongues are not a scourging form Jehovah (a warning to someone else thru them off their tongue as discipline) versus being like Judas and letting Satan pop in to say evil to destroy, (how often you hear about other brothers or sisters the words LOOK WHERE THEYRE AT NOW, or YOU DONT SEE THEM AROUND ANYMORE DO YOU). Granted, apostles themselves say these ones are no longer with us. Yet brothers & sisters will fabricate and claim what it is and why they arent. It bothers them not if what they say are lies that will reach the ones they speak off. Like those who leave the WatchTower and want the anointed to pay for it, be blamed for it, they are like Judas offended and insulted and want payback. BUT the words in a WT article itself proves whether it is the anointed who wrote it, or Judas who writes for them, as Judas did for Jesus holding the money box and distributing by his own decisions approved by Jesus. No where does it say that Absalom is the disfellowshipped one who chases David to dethrone him. To the contrary, it is David disfellowshsipped from most of Jerusalem via Absalom and people. Likewise, when Saul ruled on Jehovahs throne, David was then too disfellowshipped from the king and the people. So how could anyone write an article to say that loyalty to Jehovah means you must stick with Jehovah's anointed king Saul and the people of Jerusalem in the decision to disfellowship David as an enemy. How can anyone compare that to those who in a whole group sided with wrong Absalom and the people as if disfellowshipped people grouping with disfellowshipped Absalom, when in fact though Jehovah was with David, it was David on the run or disfellowshipped from all the bad ones who ought to be disfellowshipped and are not. The article is not relevant to the spirit of Jehovah. It starts out all for Jehovah with Jehovah and then twists it to say so abide by the elders who dsifellowshipped even if done wrong. This is Judas trying to rule for Jesus (the anointed bride). I can hear Judas saying that he follows Jesus and that John the Baptist does not. This doesnt elevate Judas and what he does above that of John. Jesus confirmed John was Elijah but Judas was the son of destruction sitting right beside him. The simple fact remains that the article on loyalty to Jehovah is not about David disfellowshipping Saul or for that matter Absalom died and he was mourned while almost all JWs will despise a brother or sister mourning their disfellowshipped relative. Further, Jesus is correct, how come these JWs cannot see Elijah was rejected by Jehovah's Jews and had to dwell with a pagan unclean Syrian which according to Jews proved Elijah was the sinner not them. Jesus made it clear, do you people not even stop and think and ask yourself how come there was no Jewish women who took Elijah in. It is because JW women were more wicked than this Syrian woman. Indeed any Elijah who is taken into safety's arms is accused by JWs as being a fornicator with her, and associating with the world. Likewise Jesus also said that David ate in the temple with his soldiers, how is it this was of Jehovahs way to feed them rather than curse them and remove David permanently. The blind do not see nor understand this, but instead repeat that loyalty to Jehovah is being loyal to how THEY see things, because THEY are Jehovah. I recall when i came back abused, financially raped, and spiritually raped and they gathered at least 12 elders in one room so the visiting elder could be "a brother gained back" 24 hours before they have him give Sunday's talk. The brother said an apology "I am sorry I ever did anything for you". and the elders applauded that this was an apology. It was clear Satan was in them not Jehovah. Jehovah has since put the fat slob to death with a heart attack from his cholesterol. This was an elder who wanted me to glorify him for supporting a moment of confusion in my life seeking some college in Brigham Young University. He actually said i should pleased that he told the other elders that they should let me go to this Mormon BYU. In prayer to Jehovah, after finding that BYU couldnt get papers organized or straight, i then relaized my love for discovery of bible history would become a conflict by mere fact that as Mormons they would take credit for anything i ever discover. I got a phone call from a Mormon bishop in Utah because i sent a letter calling them Morons, and we agreed i didnt wish to go to BYU. But what does that say of Mr.elder who gave his already planned sunday talk by judicial ruling games. I had walked out, having a ride with my mother, and here at 25 they acually had the audacity to call my mother to tell HER to bring me back. (The use of relatives for political presure and ploy.) So this is not THEIR loyalty to Jehovah, and it means to be loyal to THAT is thus also not loyal to Jehovah, rather it is being loyal to J.W.Eli and his fornicating J.W.sons.
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The Ancient Jewish CROSS and the ancient Hebrew letter Taw
by brit-93108 inthe ancient jewish cross by al garza phd is a groundbreaking book just published by createspace (isbn-13: 978-1461133896; april 27, 2011).. i'm about to order this book because it means a lot to me personally.
i was completely unaware of the history or meaning of ancient hebrew letter taw.
shaped like a cross and avoided by various jewish rabbi today due to its ties to jesus christ's death since his execution, taw is a pictorgraph used prior to babylonian captivity meaning "mark," "sign," "covenant," "seal," or more specifically, "sign, covenant, and seal of yhwh god" -- and fulfilled when jesus the messiah finalized the covenant on it through his blood so that we could have eternal life.. is the cross jewish or pagan?
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Another crossing was the new year. The lunar calendar new year and 1st of EVERY month is honored in the LAW. Noah and 7 others did nothing on the date 12-30 or on the date 1-02. It was on the new year of year 601 (2369bc Oct 6) that they removed the ark door in celebration though none of them could get out because it was too muddy to go anywhere. This doesnt mean they didnt get out or walk about for the new calendar year. It means they didnt unpack. it was futile to do so. This 360-day calendar new year happens to also be absent new moon. Thus the new year was celebrated contrary to any evangelical religion claiming new years are not in the bible. It matters not whether this year was the new moon or not, the scripture clearly says removal of the door on 1st day of 1st month. I cannot imagine Moses saying, i better refrain from saying (writing down) that they rejoiced on this day.
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The Ancient Jewish CROSS and the ancient Hebrew letter Taw
by brit-93108 inthe ancient jewish cross by al garza phd is a groundbreaking book just published by createspace (isbn-13: 978-1461133896; april 27, 2011).. i'm about to order this book because it means a lot to me personally.
i was completely unaware of the history or meaning of ancient hebrew letter taw.
shaped like a cross and avoided by various jewish rabbi today due to its ties to jesus christ's death since his execution, taw is a pictorgraph used prior to babylonian captivity meaning "mark," "sign," "covenant," "seal," or more specifically, "sign, covenant, and seal of yhwh god" -- and fulfilled when jesus the messiah finalized the covenant on it through his blood so that we could have eternal life.. is the cross jewish or pagan?
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The Tau has a date, though it is said by scholars to be derived from an 8-pointed asterick which means STAR. The 8-point represents 8 years of Venus though Venus actualy meets the sun in only 5 points of that 8-year circle. A 6-point is Mars, but the Jews claim the star of David is 12 sides like Jupiter or the moon. The Tau of mass suicide to go to heaven (all the wives and all the servants of Nahor Alumdug and his grandson Haran Meskalumdug) occurs on the Egyptian date Koyak 24. (2029bc May 5) This Kayak, Kyak, Choiak means a one-man boat to heaven. But as a boat to heaven it referred to the ark of 8 people ascending in a rapture trapped in an ark like their coffin for 40 days. According to Egyptian myth they were not rejoicing for their salvation but feared death until the 40th day when the sun rose bright. This 40 days is called the crossing. This is why the end of this crossing on the Epiphany January 6 places the middle day as the average of all things that crossed over in 40 days. The middle date is December 17 known as the Saturnalia (crossing of Saturn) which rises with Venus crossing, and Jupiter crossing those same 40 days. When Noah died, the concept of the boat to heaven became a singular one-man boat to heaven, (though this is no doubt a result that Nahor had led the whole disgusting suicide in 2029bc). This is why Sakkuth is translated as disgusting when it means the planet Saturn (in its house or in its booth). The Tau or crossing in 2029bc is that of Saturn. It is mistaken as the 3 days the moon crosses from setting death to burial absence to rising rebirth; but those dates in Koiak merely confirm this event as Koyak 21 & 22 &23. The suicide is then on Koyak 24 and the dead silent morn is Koyak 25. On this date Saturn every two orbits makes a circle around Regulus and crosses passes it twice in September 2030bc then May 2029bc as it did when Peleg Mesanipada declared his 32-year old son an elder (king Reu Aanipada) over all his things. Thus the Saturnalia crossing of the city Ur was with the star Regulus of Leo not the Flood's horn of Capricorn. Greeks of 778bc Dec 25 when Egyptian 10th montn Payni 25 was on that date then confuse the two and thus think Koyak 25 was the Dec 25 Saturnalia of 2958bc. This is derived from Noah being found dead on Dec 25 of 2021bc and keeping the date by leaping it forward every 4 years it becomes retained in 778bc when it becomes Payni 25. Leap day of 777bc then makes Dec 25 Payni 26, etc every 4 years. The Maya knew this because they place new year Pop 0 on Dec 24 of 2021bc, and Pop 1 on Dec 25. Thus Christmas Dec 25 existed before Cyrus was declared Christ in 560bc (1460 years are 365 leap days from 2020-560bc). Also before Darius was declared Christ (522-520bc) because 1507 years (1508x 365 days) is 365 solar leap days from 2029bc Jan 6 winter solstice to 521bc Dec 25 winter solstice. These dates are ABSOLUTE because Jan 6 is not the solstice in the Flood 2369bc (solstice Jan 9) nor back in 2958bc; so too Dec 25 is not the solstice after Darius. For the Magi the solstice was Dec 20 five days before this Christmas Noah, which is 12 days before the Jan 6 Solstice Memorial in 2029bc between Peleg's death and Nahor's suicide to join him in heaven. Thus what is called pagan actually marks true events that prove longevity has a toxin that's curable and all ignore it by party on dates that should be solemn memorial.
But the TAU is more than just dates of crossing. More than baby Jesus born christened by Magi on the cross (presumed as 6000am), visiting the temple at 12 on the cross (12-year Jupiter), baptized on the cross (30-year Saturn), and dying on the cross (a mere date, not of wood). The Tau of Mars is called Tamuz which is a contraction for Tau of Damuzi. The date of this marks the year Nimrod died at 500 and baby Judah was born in Harran Syria. 1770bc (2256am) July 10 at summer solstice confirmed by the Phoenix being reborn Venus the firebird rising from the summer solstice sun. Confirmation is then 997bc July 10 which then Solomon proved by his own death that Mars is not 780 Julian years but 773 Julian years. Thus you can argue whether Solomon's death honored Nimrod's death with Tamuz, or whether it exalted baby Judah as king, or Israel as king because it was Israel the Father who noted the Tamuz of Nimrod and projected Judah would be greater than Nimrod.
Crossings do occur again. Jesus chose to go to Jerusalem on Palm Sunday because it was the same Egyptian (or any 365-day calendar) as Noah packing the ark in 2370bc. He expected that if this was the Nisan 14 Passover to die, and Nisan 16 to be raised up, that he would appear for 40 days, the same 40 days dated to the Flood for the ark. This Nisan 16 was one of its kind, it was the same Egyptian date as Noah's 40 days. Thus Jesus appeared the same 40 days (April 5 to May 15) that Noahs ark floated (November 27 to January 6). This is not the same 40 days that the spirit Xisuthros claimed to be Noah from Greek Christmas eve Dec 24 to Zoroaster Christmas eve Thoth 24 (Feb 2) of 2020bc. In fact the word Christos comes from Xisuthros meaning the king who crossed over in the Flood to ascend back to heaven where he came from. Xisuthros spoke againsyt Noah for his rule of 180 years (64,800 days) from 2550-2370bc. He was the anti-Christ or false Christ who now has his second chance by ruling thru the current king who feels he saves us from Armageddon. The year 2011-2012ad has the same 40 days as it does every 1460 years; the 7 days to assemble like Jesus followed by 40 days appearing in flesh in locked rooms to the followers. Jesus died on the 5th day to rise the 7th for 40 days. Revelation makes it clear his bride dies the 7th day to appear these 40 days. So does the bride let herself get slaughtered on this crossing; and do those who were burned by apostles instead blame her. She must pick up the ear her apostle sliced off the Roman soldier, and she must heal it or she is guilty of sin without repentance, as Jesus being the leader was guilty of sin for those minutes from the time of Peter's swinging sword to the time there was no longer proof the ear was cut off. Sin moust be repented for, it must be erased. The bride is blamed for what her followers do, so the bride must die, as guilty though she is the Christ who heals and is seen for 40 days by 7 million ingrates.
ELIJAH
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Need Opinions -- Engaged to a JW!!
by junebug_11 inok, quick run down of my situation.. .
1. i am not religious.
my now-fiance was raised jw but left the religion about 10 years ago.. 2. we started dating last march, i got pregnant within two weeks.
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Your boyfriend does not love Jehovah. If he did he would make a NOW decision because of the baby. It would be, there must be a marriage now, get a license, elope, or drop the realtrionship as if having a foreign wife not of the faith. Waiting is NOT Christian unless there is a conditional reason like divorce or job etc. Even then the morality in sex is a now decision, not a postponement. One thing that JWs spit on Jehovah with is the concept of not being responsible for adultery of the other person. If they serve liquor and someone gets drunk and leaves to go steal or F-ck someone, the host gets disfellowshipped despite Jesus not putting this burden on anyone. YET Jesus does say that if you divorce without adultery reason, that you have pushed the other person into adultery because they have no one to have sex with, and even by remarrying they become an adulterer because your divorce was NOT spiritually legal. YET you see no JWs disfellowshipped for divorcing on trivia and waiting until that person commits sex or gets unscripturally remarried. YOU do not plot the destruction of others' lives in games like these. The excuse that a man without job is worse than a man without faith... Jesus did not say you can divorce a man without faith. Disfellowship if you wish, but to divorce him then the wife has pushed him into adultery, guilty again, and yet they are busy disfellowshipping the jobless and the party-host of a drunk. Another act against Jehovah is the scripture that says a woman who is engaged to another man is a fornicator of sex with someone else and so then cut off. They have twisted that scripture to say it is sex with the fiance when it is clearly sex with someone other than her faince. The one who has no fiance and is single is not cut off but required to marry the man. NO DEATH. The cut off or death was because fiance sex with someone other than him is adultery of her marriage. Thus they have broken and destroyed many marriages by disfellowshipping engaged couples. One decides to stay in good standing and never makes good on the marriage obligation. This behavior of all halls is spitting on Jehovah. And they PAY the price from Jehovah himself by the results. They boast their results as GOOD while they take the same situations and call them bad of other churches. In essence false-Christian church is lying by saying A-B-C but a Hall can say the same A-B-C and its not lying merely by who they think they are. Do not people do this with Jesus... they say his word HYPOCRITE to someone is not a sin because of who he is the perfect Christ, yet you say hypocrite to someone and suddenly you are evil and a sinner and unchristian and should become a disfellowshipped JW. JEHOVAH KNOWS. JEHOVAH WATCHES. The results are Jehovah not Satan. Jehovah punishes liars. Satan rejoices.
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I decided not to go back to the KH
by Bucholz inwell, as i mentioned before in one of my few other posts, i've been lurking here for some time now and finally decided it was time to face the facts and take action.. i was raised a jw (4th generation) and my parents were quite zealous when they got married.
mom was a regular pioneer and dad was a ms. i was the little jw 'rockstar' in my congregation, got baptized at 10, was giving talks and serving as an attendant at the hall and at conventions at such an early age.
auxiliary pioneered whenever i could.
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Wondering what makes Jehovah's Witnesses. My mom has had heart surgery
and i told her it looks like it has come around full-circle, she gets
to sit in a hospital with none of her Blood-Reps knowing she has a bag
of albumin pouring into her. The personal conscience decision isnt
even made because no one gives a damn. I recall when sister Yvonne
taught that Tootsie-Rolls have albumen in them and that it's from
blood. The fact that a lesser worshipped sister said blood products
are expensive like imported candies, and wines, and duck soup, that
the albumen would be eggs. But upon my weighing this decision at 10 in
a movie theatre we came home and mom got her NWT bible and her leather
strap and read from the bible to abstain from blood while she put 2
days of welts on me. Mom was always the one to say stay still or the
belt will go where ever it goes, and that meant the face and hands and
arms and legs. And there was no counting any number of strikes, it
kept going until mom's righteous anger subsided.
Now she is 80 with 55 years of "service" and JWs bring her
flowers instead of a phone, or speakerphone to hear Sunday talks, or
food, or her clothes, etc. Actions are not taken but merely offered,
(if you need ask). And i have had it. This is too much stress, hearing
crap comments on being this way with her helping her is making good
impressions on the elders. F-it. They study with my 85 year old father
who is only concerned with Armageddon survival and resurrection. And
meanwhile he still makes the remarks as he had 20 years ago that he
has a gone and will go over there and shoot all of them for butting in
his life. This is the guy they study and baptize ?????
He got all in an uproar because someone spoke of a sister losing her
home from a fallen tree in a windstorm, and two other families who
need a home. They have a three-unit empty apartment house they think
they'll sell for a pre-recession assesment of $270k. Meanwhile paying
gas electric and taxes to keep it empty. My dad says to her tell me
whose putting these ideas into your head woman or i will shoot the
person who told you this. I'll drop that Kingdom Hall, and I'll go
over there and tell them all I want no more to do with it. THESE ARE
THE CHRISTIANS that door-to-door preaching JWs have always sought most
to bring in. The ones who hide what they are for 60 years. Jehovah
fails to change these people, and everyone who has to hear these sick
pathetic words are told they are liars and are not believed. How can
Jehovah even exist, if his nature and spirit are claimed to be in
those who are the likes of this. I RATHER BELIEVE JEHOVAH EXISTS and
these people are not of Jehovah.
I look back at all my ma's best friends, on how they went to
clubs to work as waitresses for cash, un reported to the IRS. I look
back and think of how ma told them that its not easy to get these
girls and so wanted in-hand xtra cash for each one. THEN she further
scalped what she claimed her girls wanted and were getting. Told them
they all had to pool tips, and yet I recall a table of blacks at THE
LAMBS charity gave me a $50 bill and mom said i could keep it because
i was family. Well, i chose to split it because in those days i had a
conscience before enough JWs raped mine. I really truly wonder that if
one of them died (mom or dad) and were given right now their youth in
resurrection, which one would kill which one. The younger kill the
older or the older kill the younger. Would the older dread going thru
life again with the same crap and so kill the younger's 2nd life; or
would the younger have the strength to display the same fits of anger
both my parents still display though both have been on a table of
death and revived.
What do you think?
ELIJAH (posted in Google News)By the way. Since 1983 i have known the DATE of Armageddon. The hour is revealed. It is revealed to the bride who is our Christ, and revealed by John the Baptizer who is the call for the bride to wake up because she is sleeping in ignorance with the rest of the evangelical virgins who will not go to heaven. For 28 years now i have known the bride will be slaughtered in one day. What i didnt know until i came down from Mount Ararat is that the bride's slaughter in one day will be the 7th day as was Easter Sunday the 7th for Jesus, and that the bride's rapture appearing only to her disciples (like Jesus did) will be 40 days because angels who dwell on earth are sinning, they contribute to the carbon-14 toxicity in our DNA, before the Flood, and now the educational fact that it is harmful since the Flood. Asteroid impact is Jan 19. The bride must ascend 40 days before it. Ask me anything, Jehovah does answer. My life has been lie after lie about me since the age of 9 when at the 1966 Winnepeg District Assembly the Judicial Committe's wife said to me in front of him that Jehovah at Armageddon will destroy little boys like me who dont listen to their parents. It was this couple's fault that i was abandoned in a gas station bathroom. And i still wonder why four men come out of a locked single toilet bathroom when i went into it and came out to find two cars of 11 people gone for 3 hours. And regarding Circuit Overseer Cunerd in 1983 who accused me of saying that my 1996 (50th jubilee of Nehemiah's wall) was acceptance of a 4004bc Adam, a 588bc destruction of Jerusalem, and 1996 as year 6000... Jehovah himself answered me that day with the restitution given me of our Hall's copies of Russell's Studies explaining Ussher, as well as my Bible falling open to Nehemiah saying this evil of your words is in your own heart not mine. And we all know the one where it says it is I Jehovah they have rejected not you Samuel. Rest assured, Peter sits beside the GB and the cock will crow when the bride is slaughtered, and Judas is the GBs right hand man, and he will be the one to get ALL OF YOU to slaughter the bride. BUt you know these 10,000 have committed no crime to be killed in one day (Dec 10 this year).
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I miss my dad and I can't stop crying about it
by Velour inso recently, i've had this urge to write to my father.
i couldn't quite pinpoint why i would try when i know he wouldn't read it and we aren't even that close.. over the years, before i left, my father and i could not relate to each other and we quit trying.
he was always so busy writting and preparing for talks.
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Re-reading some of what i wrote, i wish to say, that the elder who was adulterating another sisters marriage... they specifically said he isnt doing wrong until THEY see the wrong he is doing. That decision is theirs the elders, not of those seeing it in the congregation. So these men prove they havent changed, they get told and they dont. You people keep thinking the WatchTower twists things to make themselves look right like no worng has been done, and what YOU dont see is the elders will twist things and lie to the WatchTower to wash themselves off. You keep saying the WT disfellowships, and what you fail to see is that evil elders do it. The WT is merely believing the lies of these elders.
I have an experience in Houston where i was neither a baptized member of the whole JW WT nor was i a member of the congregation that raped me. Simple fact is, it was a hall where all men wore ties, accept for one, nor his small sons. And the crippled polio wife a hot tempered peurto rican had said her husband had been reproved for something, so with fera in her eyes she asked me not to make of this following story. At the hall she had said to me, when are you gonna get a haircut, and i said when your hsuband and two sons wear a tie to the meetings. I mean anyone could see all others wore ties, everyone. Well how dare i offend his wife, next meeting he said my friend (elder) wants to talk to you back here in the back room. Now thats where you people need to start realizing your words should be like Jesus who said YOU PEOPLE HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER ME, I WILL NOT GO IN YOUR BACK ROOM. This guy for payback attempted to say that at one time in my life i must have masturbated, that single people cannot be celibate unless they are devoted baptized JWs and that if i masturbated just once it means i'm an internalized homosexual that isnt admitting is my desires. This is how the world rapes the minds of your children, and it is how halls do it too, because they are like the world, insult them like you insult Judas and Satan pops right in, and all the halls rally to join them.
I went home, 1000 miles and have a recording where because i got a mail from another non-baptized 14-year old girl saying that I have led her on as if to wish to be her boyfriend at 25...(how odd that elders who say your a fag, can then accuse you of hetero-pedophilia), this girl is not a JW, favors the attention of her non-JW step father married to her JW mother. Her behavior was tacky-silly the kind who wanted attention because no one at the hall spoke to her, so it was humorous to her to tell guys she knew what a dippy-dildo was. Anyways on this recording, witnessed by a 3rd party on her own phone where i went to call her up... she says how those elders all got together and came to her home... (nonJW step father's home) and deliberately forced her to write this letter, THEY TOLD HER THAT MY TALKING TO HER WAS TO LEAD HER ON SEXUALLY. This is why you now have rooms like this one, where the trash isnt from the WT mags or GB but all the halls that you people were and are and had been behaving disgusting like this. (My apologies to Sonya Hill of 30 years ago); makes you wonder if she's a JW now.